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PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE
E‑BULLETIN # 14
From: "Dunbar" <dunbar@northwest.net>
To: "Troy Newton" <tnewton@alsde.edu>, "Amber Holveck" <amber.holveck@oregonffa.com>,
"Jeanette Stursen" <cdechico@dcsi.net>, "Lloyd McCabe" <lmccabe@cde.ca.gov>,
"Jack Havens" <jhavens@csupomona.edu>, "Kern Harris" <kharris@csufresno.edu>,
"Greg Beard" <gbeard@calpoly.edu>, "Jean Landeen" <jlandeen@cde.ca.gov>,
"Charles Parker" <cparker@cde.ca.gov>, "Christopher Weller" <cweller@state.pa.us>,
"Larry Gossen" <lgossen@ksde.org>, "Dale Gruis" <dale.gruis@ed.state.ia.us>,
"Robert Juncker" <rjuncker@doe.state.in.us>, "Ronald Reische" <rreische@isbe.net>,
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"Michael Barros" <mike_barros@notes.k12.hi.us>, "Richard Ledington" <dledingt@pte.state.id.us>,
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"William Mcgrew" <bmcgrew@mde.k12.ms.us>, "Terry Heiman" <theiman@mail.dese.state.mo.us>,
"David Hall" <davidh@state.mt.us>, "Craig Frederick" <cfrederick@nde.state.ne.us>,
"Jim Barbee" <jbarbee@nsn.k12.nv.us>, "Dr. Richard Barker" <rbarker@ed.state.nh.us>,
"Nancy Trivette" <nancy.trivette@ag.state.nj.us>, "Saundra Castillo" <nmffa@nmsu.edu>,
"Donna Moore" <nysffa@telenet.net>, "Dr. Marshall Stewart" <marshall_stewart@ncsu.edu>,
"Steve Zimmerman" <szimmerm@state.nd.us>, "Dr. Ike Kershaw" <ike.kershaw@ode.state.oh.us>,
"Edward Smith" <edsmith@okcareertech.org>, "Juan Jimenez" <juanadolfo@hotmail.com>,
"Norman Hammond" <RIFFANH@AOL.COM>, "Billy Keels" <wkeels@clemson.edu>,
"Gary Grey" <gary.grey@state.sd.us>, "Steve Gass" <steven.gass@state.tn.us>,
"Terry Phillips" <tphillip@tea.state.tx.us>, "William Deimleer" <wdeimler@usoe.k12.ut.us>,
"John Bradley" <jbradley@doe.state.vt.us>, "Eddie Williams" <eddiejedc@yahoo.com>,
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"Sandi Hadaller" <ffa.execsec@myhome.net>, "Tom Maynard" <tmaynard@texasffa.org>
Date: 5/12/04 9:30AM
Subject: Parliamentary Procedure E Bulletin #14
PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE E BULLETIN # 14
Volume 4, Number 2 (May 14, 2004)
This is a FREE quarterly publication (Mid February, May, August and
November) by Shane D. Dunbar (MEd), Professional Registered
Parliamentarian
and Accredited Parliamentarian, that is designed to be FORWARDED to FFA
Chapter Advisors.
==> ANNOUNCEMENTS
==> PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE SITES WORTH VISITING
==> QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
==> TIP ON TRAINING A TEAM FROM A NATIONAL WINNER
==> SEND COMMENTS REGARDING THIS BULLETIN TO: dunbar@northwest.net
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ANNOUNCEMENTS:
**L@@K==>> As an Agriculture teacher, you can become certified as an
"Accredited Parliamentarian (AP)." The first step is to join the SOCIETY
FOR AGRICULTURAL EDUCATION PARLIAMENTARIANS (presently, there is not a
fee).
Contact Dr. Jim Connors (connors.49@osu.edu) for all the details.
**The Difference Between A "Motion" And A "Question."
Before a motion is stated to the assembly by the chair it is known as a
"motion." It is correctly referred to as a "question" after it is stated
to
the assembly.
**The Standard Citation For "Robert's Rules Of Order Newly Revised"
(abbreviated "RONR")
The standard citation to particular pages and lines is "RONR (10th ed.[for
'edition'] ), p. [for 'page' or "'pages'], l.[for 'line' or 'lines']." See
the examples below.
**Exceptions To The Rules For FFA Chapter Minutes
"The name of the seconder of a motion should not be entered in the minutes
unless ordered by the assembly." [RONR (10th ed.), p. 453, l. 29 30.]
**What Is An Immediately Pending Motion? (
http://www.nancysylvester.com/index.html)
"A motion is considered "immediately pending" when several motions are
pending and it is the motion that was last stated by the chair and will be
the first to be disposed of."
**Selecting The FFA Committee Chairman For The Motion To Commit or Refer
When the motion to Commit or Refer is adopted, "The first person that the
chair names is automatically chairman of the committee unless the assembly
rejects that person as a committee member or unless he or she declines the
chairmanship..." [RONR (10th ed.), p. 477, footnote.]
**Corrections In The Official FFA Reference Tenth Edition of Robert's
Rules
Of Order Newly Revised
RONR corrections are listed below so that if you have a printing earlier
than the fifth you may note them in your copy. The "printing" of the 10th
edition is on the back of the title page. It is the first number on the
bottom line. Other corrections will be listed in future E Bulletins.
+ p. 651, under "Attend meetings [/] requirement as condition of
membership": strike out "55" and insert "555"
+ p. 666, under "Elections [/] when no candidate receives a majority":
following " 417" add "425, 426 27
+ p. 669, under "Fraud": strike out "469" and insert "462"
**What Is The Value Of Parliamentary Procedure? (Louise M. Henely)
You learn to respect another's view point
You discover you can even "disagree" agreeably
You school yourself in patience
You gain dignity and self control
You learn that a quiet answer turns away wrath
**Are You Using The Current Edition Of Robert's Rules Of Order With Your
FFA Students?
The 1915 edition (the 4th) of Robert's Rules of Order is the latest that
is
no longer protected by copyright law. There are numerous "Robert's Rules
of
Order" derived from this edition by modern authors. Some are merely the
4th
edition with some formatting and illustration improvements, and others are
a
complete revision. The CURRENT edition (10th) is entitled "Robert's Rules
of
Order Newly Revised," and contains 704 pages, plus 48 "tinted" pages. It
was
published in the year 2000.
**Brainteaser (www.jimslaughter.com/)
Q: According to Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised (10th Edition), what
should be stated in the last paragraph of minutes?
(Answer is listed at the end of this E Bulletin)
**Test Your Knowledge
Q: Which motion would you propose if you wanted to close debate and vote
immediately on a pending motion?
A. Postpone to a Certain Time
B. Previous Question
C. Lay on the Table
D. Amend
(Answer is listed at the end of this E Bulletin)
**From the National FFA Parliamentary Procedure CDE
Superintendent (Dr. Jim Connors: connors.49@osu.edu)
Two, new references have been added for the National CDE:
Parliamentary Procedure Oral Questions and Dunbar's
Manual of Parliamentary Procedure Test Questions. Order
through the national FFA at http://www.ffaunlimited.org/parprocteacm.html
The National FFA is starting the preliminary revision of the
Parliamentary Procedure CDE this Summer. If any agriculture teacher has
any
comments or suggested changes to the format for the National FFA
Parliamentary Procedure CDE, please contact Dr. Jim Connors,
Superintendent, at (614) 292 3386 or by email at connors.49@osu.edu.
PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE SITES WORTH VISITING:
http://www.mo4h.missouri.edu/volunteer/PProcedure.stm (Basics Of
Parliamenary Procedure)
http://www.tmdistrict38.org/parliament.html (Parliamentary Procedure At A
Glance)
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS:
One question is answered on each E Bulletin. Send it to
dunbar@northwest.net. If a question that was submitted does not
appear on an E Bulletin, it will be answered personally by
E mail. All answers are based on the 10th edition of Robert's Rules of
Order
Newly Revised (RONR).
Q: Sometimes we have very few FFA members attending out chapter meetings.
Should the FFA officers be counted in determining whether or not a
quorum is present?
A: "If the officers are members of the assembly as they usually are in
ordinary societies they are counted in determining whether a quorum is
present." [RONR (10th ed.), p. 21, l. 10 12.]
TIP ON TRAINING A TEAM FROM A NATIONAL WINNER
Review the score sheet with team members so they will know
exactly how they will be evaluated. To find it on the web:
http://www.ffa.org/, click on "Site Index," "Career Development
Events Program Information," and then "Parliamentary Procedure."
Answer To Brainteaser:
The hour of adjournment. [RONR (10th ed.), p. 453, l. 22 24.]
Answer to Test Your Knowledge Question:
B. Previous Question
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